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PostSubject: Should government employees be allowed to criticize their bosses publicly?   Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:44 pm

In recent weeks the City of Ortonville has established a strong precedent by allowing not one but two employees to verbalize their political views publicly to a variety of organizations.

Ms. Vicki Oakes and Mr Lang have been allowed to criticize this forum publicly and actually sought reprimand and the right to preview our posts before printing anything.

Mr. Lang directed Artie Arndt to show his personal successes.

The question is that many city employees have been careful not to speak publicly but the city council has done nothing to these two employees.

I personally am okay with this as long as other employees speak thier minds. I suspect that Mr. Lang and Ms. Oakes were granted special privileges.

What is your opinion? Should employees be allowed to criticize their bosses?
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PostSubject: Re: Should government employees be allowed to criticize their bo   Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:52 pm

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Should employees be allowed to criticize their bosses?

Is it against the law if they do?
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PostSubject: Great Question!   Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:43 am

That is a great question.

It is thought that good public servants are unbiased in their jobs and when they become public servants they are to respect the elected officials. At a federal level and state level public employees are not allowed to verbalize what political party they attend and are generally apolitical.

The issue at a loca level is that it is hard for the public to strain out whether an employee is acting in their occupational capacity or their personal capacity.

I have noticed for years in this community it is generally the rule that city employees are generally apolitical.
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PostSubject: What if everyone is.....   Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:07 pm

That kind of creates an interesting situation. Given that the City of Ortonville is the largest employer in the city then most of the citizens cannot express their political views. No See big business in Ortonville
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PostSubject: Re: Should government employees be allowed to criticize their bo   Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:11 pm

Another aspect of this question is the manner of gov't employees speaking out. Constructively, or destructively? Sharp criticism can be constructive, but it takes skill -- not simple attack.

Lady Hawk is pretty skilled, in my opinion. I can't do what she does -- she is assertive, focused, in command of a down-to-earth logic. Constructive.

Destructive criticism turns everyone off who is well bred, mature; it rouses those who are 'mud wrestlers.' So nothing useful gets done except illuminating who the brutes are.

If you begin with the end in mind, it usually leads to a better approach. What are you trying to accomplish by speaking out? That desired outcome will back you up to a strategy of what to say, how and where.

So...whether folks CAN criticize in public is only half the question. The other half is, when and how should they to accomplish their objective? Suspect
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PostSubject: Why?   Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:21 am

It would seem to me that comments would usually be one-sided; therefore, of questionable credibility.

It is very easy to brag about accomplishments and these will always come. The problem is the other side.

One may fear losing a job if he blows the whistle on who received bonuses for instance.

In other words, should we allow comments from public servants who may really be tooting their own horns for job security purposes. I know that this is a problem because many of you have told me so.

As a result though we here only from those in support of the present regime.

I agree with Zorro, but we need both sides of the story or none. To have one side of a story is an inappropriate method to convince someone of a position.
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