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joelie hicks
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PostSubject: smithfield farms subject of swine flu lawsuit   Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:42 pm

Judy Trunnell a 33 year old woman who was pregnant fell ill with the H1N1 virus. She was the first U.S. resident to die from the disease. Her baby was delivered by C-section before her death.
Her husband is suing Smithfield foods for wrongful death. The disease was first detected in a La Gloria, Mexico pig operation owned by Smithfield. The petition does not charge Smithfield with purposely breeding the virus, but for establishing the conditions to make it possible.
No one has ever before tried to hold a corporation responsible for the inadvertant creation of a disease, but there is already scientific evidence to back the claim in this instance.
Scientists have already traced the lineage of H1N1 to a strain that emerged in 1998 from U.S. factory farms, where it spread and mutated at an alarming rate. At the time they warned that the virus would one day evolve to infect humans and perhaps set off a global pandemic.
While industrial farms may be raising the risk of encouraging new viruses it might be tough to pin responsibility on a single corporation.
This info was taken from an article in Acres/USA magazine.
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PostSubject: Re: smithfield farms subject of swine flu lawsuit   Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:31 am

Wow! I have read extensively on H5N1 for three years, and H1N1 in the last year, and had not heard this information. Please keep us updated on this thread. This would really be some development going forward.
Thanks! Detective
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PostSubject: swine flu evolved on small farms- livestock growers should work together   Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:55 pm

Funny that the rest of the world recognizes that the swine flue viruses have evolved from close contact of pigs with birds and humans and other farm animals, possibly turkeys. It is very harmful to try and attribute the current virus to pig to pig contact. Unfortunately the swine flu/ H1N1 lineage starts in the early 1900's and the lady trying to bring down Smithfield farms and the people that promote her will bring down the hobby pig operation that cannot screen birds out of it's pig barn and cannot afford to build safer facilities. Note the info on H1N1 that has been published and reviewed ten times over:

Influenza A was first recognized as a clinical illness in pigs in 1918, which coincided with the 1918-19 influenza pandemic in humans. H1N1 influenza A virus was first isolated from pigs in the United States in 1930.

Swine influenza is considered endemic in pigs in the United States, and animal outbreaks occur with regular frequency (usually in the fall and winter months). Key information about swine influenza viral subtypes in North America includes the following (see [url=http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/swineflu/biofacts/swinefluoverview.html#_References_2]References[/url]: Olsen 2002):
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<LI class=body>From 1930 through 1998 swine influenza in North America was primarily caused by viruses of the classical H1N1 lineage.
<LI class=body>Since 1998, H3N2 viruses with genes derived from human, swine, and avian viruses (triple reassortant viruses) have become an important cause of swine influenza in North America, along with classical H1N1.
<LI class=body>H1N2 viruses that resulted from reassortment between the triple reassortant H3N2 viruses and classical H1N1 swine viruses also have been isolated in the United States.
<LI class=body>Avian H4N6 virus was recognized in pigs in Canada in 1999, but spread beyond the original farm of detection was not identified.
[*]A novel H3N1 influenza virus was isolated from pigs in the United States in the mid 2000s; this virus may have risen from reassortment of an H3N2 turkey isolate, a human H1N1 isolate, and currently circulating swine influenza viruses (see [url=http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/swineflu/biofacts/swinefluoverview.html#_References_2]References[/url]: Lekcharoensuk 2006).
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Swine influenza viruses also have been identified in pigs in South America, Europe (including the United Kingdom, Sweden, and Italy), Africa (Kenya), and in parts of eastern Asia (see [url=http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/swineflu/biofacts/swinefluoverview.html#_References_2]References[/url]: WHO: Swine influenza frequently asked questions).



The pigs had to contact birds and people to develop the modern H1N1 and NOT a bunch of other pigs. Keeping pigs outdoors created this problem in the early 1900's. Heaven. there were no big swine operations then. Some people don't care if the whole swine industry goes down due to misinformation, because they raise cattle.
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PostSubject: Re: smithfield farms subject of swine flu lawsuit   Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:57 pm

it is important to read carefully, the lady in question is not trying to 'bring down' smithfield farms, she is dead.
Her husband is filing a wrongful death suit ascribed to smithfield because this particular virus seems to have gotten it's start in la gloria mexico, where there is a huge smithfield operation. Bodies of children who have died earlier this year were exhumed and studied.
Yes, the disease is spread by human contact, that started with workers contact with animals. This has been warned about by researchers for over a decade. Large concentrations of animals are incubators for the mutation and spread of viruses, raised inside or outside. Low level doses of continuous antibiotics keeps the disease from manifesting itself because the animals often don't live long enough to exibit symptoms.
A fascinating study was reported in the mpls tribune a number of years ago where e coli was traced from hamburger in the metro area to a farm in se sd. None of the sick people were in the same home, they did not live near each other, did not eat at the same restaurant or shop at the same grocery. Unraveling the mystery, what every sick person had done was use an antibiotic when they began to become ill. All but one was self medicating from old medicine.
Regarding the rather mean comment at the end about not caring about bringing down the swine industry: i really don't know any farmers who rejoice in another's misfortune. Our family actually eats a lot of pork, but i am careful of the source, i buy no meat at the grocery and eat meat at restaurants very rarely. Because they do not face reality regarding meat safety the whole industry, pork, beef and poultry are bringing about their own problems.
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PostSubject: fake facts hurt human health   Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:17 am

Telling and accepting the truth is the only way out of our problems. When it comes to public health playing "dumb as we wanna be" is wrong.

Historically lawsuits have done a lot to advance public health and safety. But spreading rumours about the factual circumstances without giving the source is not a plus for health, it's a negative. I realize that a lot of people want Smithfield farms to be implicated in the world wide H1:N1 flu but wanting something doesn't change the facts.

It is essential that people spend their time on known things rather than on emotional story telling because human health is no joke. Cancer is no joke and saying that CAFO's cause cancer, as the Grant County Concerned Citizens did in the Grant County review is harmful and mean to the many people fighting cancer for real. Playing with the facts on public health is wrong. Swine flu is a public health issue.
The ancestor of today's pandemic is the circa 1910 flu virus. Go to the CDC site or read a few papers on pubmed and you will find that a monoculture of pigs did not create today's problem virus, quite the opposite. You are looking for info on the H1:N1 viruses.

the big swine operations where pigs are relatively isolated from other farm animals and exposed to fewer people and where the manure is kept in lagoons; greatly reducing pathogens and antibiotic residues, are not implicated as a source of today's pandemic.

Large and small producers are affected by low prices due to fear mongering about pork meat. Another bad thing about fear mongering.

Spreading untreated cattle feedlot manure on frozen ground where it runs off with the first big melt and ends up in creeks and rivers where other cattle drink and people swim, that's a real public health problem and several states have been concerned enough to do studies of the prevalence of E. Coli 0157:H7 on cattle farms. (Washington, California to name just two, also google E. coli 0157:H7 to see why those states are on the right track) Why would Joelie bring cattle in , untested for E. coli 0157:H7 and spread their untreated manure on frozen ground where it sometimes washes down drainage ditches and contaminates downstream dairies and pasture cattle that drink out of the creeks? Wether an outbreak is caused by a small farm , a family farm or an industrial livestock farm it's still an outbreak.

When it comes to public health, cancer, food contamination, water contamination we can't afford to waste time on chicken little. She wouldn't know if she was carrying avian flu herself and spreading it up and down the road.
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