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PostSubject: wind energy   Thu May 21, 2009 9:18 am

There are many opinions about wind energy and this seems to be a proper place to air them.
When the 'wind people' first came to our area our feeling was that of course we would sign up, the only question was with whom would we sign?
But the idea that all a person had to do was sign a contract, sit back and let the money roll in seemed a little far fetched to me. So it was research time. That coupled with the problem that at least one representative goes from neighbor to neighbor with what have been outright lies has made a few of us pause before we get on board.
There is a site called Industrial Wind Action that is very good, they have a spot with editorials that is very interesting, but the most interesting to me is the weekly post of wind issues from around the world, some are simply what is getting started and where. Some show the problems that wind farms have. For example i had no idea how many liens have been filed against landowners if a wind corp. does not pay it's bills. Or the lawsuits filed against landowners from neighbors who are bothered by the constant hum, whose homes have been damaged by ice throws etc. It is easier to go after a landowner than a corporation, and even if the suit comes to nothing, the land owner still has attorneys fees etc. to deal with, so the $$$ made can disappear quickly.
I know that there are lots of people who favor wind energy and I have read some of those opinions here. This just shows another aspect.
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PostSubject: Re: wind energy   Fri May 22, 2009 4:33 am

I hadn't thought about some of these things. There certainly is risk involved, and a lot to research before moving out. Thanks for bringing this up. Glad your group is out there -- Keep doing what you're doing for us!
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PostSubject: wind naysayers   Sat May 23, 2009 4:09 pm

As a sincere person who acts on their beliefs what actions have you been taking to stop local wind projects?

You have been looking into things, then have there been any problems with the new projects in our MN SD area? A lot of early wind turbine problems have been solved by design and setback distances. South Dakota just passed legislation to prevent any lien on lands due to wind easements, but you already knew that I am sure. We would all like to hear from people adversely impacted by our up to date local projects.

I am concerned about your charge that representatives of Summit Wind have lied to the neigbors. What's the lie? I invested a small amount of money in that project, as you all know and I take this seriously. What were the "outright lies"?
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PostSubject: Re: wind energy   Mon May 25, 2009 1:36 pm

I have not done anything to stop local wind projects. It will mostly affect people who live in the hills and that would be up to them to organize and oppose.
Some of us are opposed to transmission lines on county 4, too close to too many homes and last year a california study backed up previous studies that childhood leukemia, miscarriage and ALS rates rise sharply when people live too close to these lines.
North Dakota passed a law on liens on landowners, but they cannot stop regular lawsuits.
I have been talking to people in western mn about the effects on individuals and communities. Even with new equipment there are problems. This whole thing seems as though it will eventually cause huge rate increases to fund.
Grant County's setback rule is already out of date, that is my opinion.
The summit wind people have told at least three of my neighbors that everyone west of them had signed an easement, completely untrue. One also told a neighbor that they would just get permission to build in the right of way and not pay them anything, which according to an e-mail from another rep and a couple of phone calls to commissioners is also untrue. The funniest is someone had a concern about irrigation and a water/line connection. He was told that water did not conduct electricity. Some people who started out completely supportive have changed their minds by what they feel is shady behavior, this is not me, this is other neighbors.
From almost the begining i feel it is an expensive, inefficient, faddish and wasteful effort. Again, my opinion, but it is the result of a lot of study.
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PostSubject: truth is often inthe details and not gut feelings   Tue May 26, 2009 11:59 am

The truth is in the details. Water is a very poor conductor of electricy. dissolved salts conducts electricity. Salt water conducts electricity very well, distilled water not.
Running around calling a simple true statement a lie, instead of straighting it out while you are there(if you were there and it's not hearsay) or looking it up in a book first isn't looking out for your neighbors.

If you wanted people to read the California study then you would tell people where they could read it. Why leave out the details such as author, title and web site? This study should be making headlines according to your post.

The World Health Organization has a web site and on it is a review and research about electromagnetic fields form power lines. Not every study pertains to power lines of the size in the Summit wind project. We drive under higher capacity lines that cross I-29 South of Watertown. So check it out and let us know what you think the safe distance is from the proposed transmission line. There is regulation of power line construction and the project meets all of those safety regs.

I heard second hand that farmers on the flats were planning to hold up the transmission line because they don't want the little ranches in the hills to get the extra cash from turbing easments. It's just a rumor.
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PostSubject: Re: wind energy   Tue May 26, 2009 1:23 pm

actually there are people in grant county who have moved their irrigators because of sparking when water and the lines met up w/eachother.
i have shared the california study with people who live near the proposed line site. it is not hard to find.
there are some places on county 4 where lines will go right over peoples homes.
when my neighbors tell me what was said, i believe them,especially when the same thing is said by more than one person.
no one that i know wishes any harm to people in the hills, heck, if it is all as it appears to be, we would stand to make some $$$ ourselves.
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PostSubject: Are the studies reliable   Tue May 26, 2009 7:48 pm

As I grew up as a kid I remember a protest near Glenwood Minnesota who claimed that transmission-power lines caused harm to milking operations and crop farming. People were shot at and arrests were made.

A few years later in college we debated whether power lines caused harm to people, livestock and crops.

The research was at best difficult because most of the studies done were done by colleges or universities paid for the power companies.

We debated about one-half of the year when a study from USSR should all kinds of harm created by the power lines.

I cannot find this study and was completed long before the internet was a word. Sorry I am confessing my age! Has anybody seen this study or a good study like this regarding wind energy and the transmission of power lines?
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PostSubject: the mysterious california study   Tue May 26, 2009 9:32 pm

The california study is impossible to find if you jealously guard the author, title, publication date and journal.
Why keep a study secret that says our common power lines cause disease ? Maybe the paper refers to setback distances and sizes of lines that aren't even in the local projects.

Yes we have to manage irrigation , livestock, people, metal buildings around all power lines. That's why easements are paid. But it is still true that the electrical properties of water that we observe are due to the impurities in the water and not the water.

I'm going to let this thread go since the studies that show power lines can be managed safely will be discounted because power companies fund some of them and the California study that shows unmanagable problems is some kind of nameless secret weapon.

No I am not coming back to see if the California reference is ever cited. No I do not want private correspondence about public safety issues.

Enjoy yourselves without me for awhile. It's summer.
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PostSubject: Re: wind energy   Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:27 pm

You see neither side of this debate is right or wrong, on one side people say that the turbines and power lines increase the chance of disease but all the "studies" that were mention didn't take into account the genetics of the people and other outside factors. Studies can be twisted and way you want and the only way to get the truth is to put on your overalls and get outside and see for yourself. But the Pro side is not entirely right their are problems with the turbines including the flicker effect and their appearances which may decrease land value. But the best we can do is develop new technology and pass laws that improve the quality of life for everyone. My personal vision is that wind energy will make SD great but it can't do so yet without the cooperation of everyone. Both sides should get the facts straight.
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PostSubject: Re: wind energy   Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:50 pm


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The biggest ever publicly funded UK study (1) into power lines and child cancer has found that children under the age of 15 living within 100 metres of high-voltage power lines have close to twice the risk of developing leukaemia. Children aged 0-5 are the most vulnerable so their risk is likely to be even higher.

This result from the OXFORD CHILDHOOD CANCER RESEARCH GROUP study, headed by Gerald Draper analysed and compared 33 years of data (from1962 to1995) on 35,000 children diagnosed with cancer, with their distance to the nearest electricity transmission line. These latest findings from the Draper study of a direct effect on childhood leukaemia from U.K. power lines follow from the acknowledged International studies that the risk of childhood leukaemia is doubled for magnetic field exposures above 0.4 microtesla, well below that seen under high voltage powerlines.

We have learned that " preliminary results" of the latest Draper study, funded to run from 1997-2001 were known as long as 3 years ago and were formally shown confidentially to the U.K. Department of Health in May 2003, but to date has not as yet been entrusted to the public.

We of the Trentham Environmental Action Campaign, an independent research and activist group, concerned about adverse health effects from power-lines, believe it to be absolutely scandalous that 3 years after telling the Department of Health of these latest U.K. findings, it is only as a consequence of our intervention that we are now able to make these findings public.

There appears to have been a determination to withhold the Draper Report for as long as possible.

Trentham has a high voltage powerline crossing many of the houses and there are a significant number of households with young children within 100 metres of the line. Our concerns are also shared by REVOLT, Powerwatch and Electromagnetic Hazard and Therapy, organisations which have also voiced concerns about the health risks of electromagnetic fields for many years.

Our campaign group has been in constant contact with the Government, Mr George Hooker at the Department of Health and the National Radiological Protection Board [NRPB]. We have also been deeply disappointed in the organisations' continuing denial of the problem despite their knowing about these new study results. The NRPB already acknowledges that there is international consensus on the fact that the incidence of childhood leukaemia is doubled at a magnetic field of 0.4 microtesla, which is exceeded under most powerlines. In March 2004, the NRPB reduced the national magnetic field exposure guidelines from 1,600 microtesla to 100 microtesla [3].

They said "In the light of these findings (the association between exposure to magnetic fields and childhood leukaemia) and the requirement for additional research, the need for further precautionary measures should be considered by government". However, 100 microtesla is still 250 times higher than the level (0.4 microtesla) at which the risk of developing childhood leukaemia is doubled.









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Electromagnetic fields from powerlines are also linked to adult cancers, depression and suicide. Our Trentham group carried out a local survey which produced extremely worrying results. Depression, miscarriages, headaches, insomnia (with its attendant chronic health problems due to immune system damage) were much more common in the people who lived near the powerline, compared with those who lived further away. Some of these health problems were also found in the important California Health Department report [4] of 2002.

The leukaemia link has now been repeatedly demonstrated. The government should take our nation's health seriously enough to stop allowing houses to be built near high-voltage lines and to remove overhead powerlines from residential areas.

The Minister for Housing and Planning, Keith Hill, in a letter dated July 2004, said "We are aware that there is continuing debate about the effect of living under power lines and whether this can have adverse long-term health effects.

We are of the opinion that power lines are unlikely to have significant effects on the environment". Is this a government statement about people's health or about the environment? Is this confusion, or spin?

It is time the government and planners took the health issue seriously, and reversed their policy of favouring developers, clearly ignoring the risk to children's health. New housing near powerlines should be restricted, and existing lines through residential areas phased out.

Only 50 years ago developing childhood leukaemia was an almost certain death sentence. Due to dramatic improvements in treatment, about 80% of children who suffer from the most common form of childhood leukaemia (ALL, acute lymphoblastic leukaemia) now live for more than 5 years after treatment, but childhood leukaemia remains the largest child killer disease. Survivors often suffer ongoing adverse health complications. The number of children developing leukaemia has been steadily growing over the last 50 years. In 2001, Dr Sam Milham reported [5] a link between the growth in electricity supply and the growth in leukaemia incidence in the USA.

We ignore this at our peril.

[1] Draper G, Vincent T, Kroll M & Swanson J - Childhood cancer and electromagnetic field exposures from powerlines - Department of Health funded 1997-2001, RRX 46 (as yet still unpublished)

[2] International Scientific Conference on the incidence, causal mechanisms and prevention of childhood leukaemia and other cancers. Westminster, 6-10th September 2004. See: http://www.leukaemiaconference.org

[3] See: http://www.nrpb.org for details of their announcements and downloadable publications

[4] Neutra R R, DelPizzo V & Lee G M - An Evaluation of the possible risks from electric and magnetic fields (EMFs) from power lines, internal wiring, electrical occupations & appliances, 2002, California Department of Health & Human Services, The Program, Oakland, California. http://www.dhs.ca.gov/ehib/emf/RiskEvaluation/riskeval.html
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on: http://www.electric-fields.bris.ac.uk

[5] Milham S & Ossiander E M - Historical evidence that residential electrification caused the emergence of the childhood leukaemia peak Medical Hypotheses, 2001, 56(3) 290-295

Further information about powerlines and health problems (including the Trentham survey) can be found on the following websites

TEAC http://www.revolt.co.uk/trentham Media (only) Tel: 01782 658648 Mobile 07963915428 ( Maureen A)

EMH&T http://www.em-hazard-therapy.com Simon Best 01730 816 799 (media only)

Powerwatch http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/contents.asp

REVOLT http://www.revolt.co.uk
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PostSubject: Re: wind energy   Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:55 pm

(See above links for more information)
New information on EMF


Introduction

When properly analyzed, scientific data convincingly and consistently show a link between magnetic fields greater than 2-4 mG and cancer. New analyses of older data have induced a wholesale revision in the views of high-level authorities, including the utilities themselves, who have dramatically revised their own statements on EMF.
Therefore, the information on this site is focuses primarily on "Recent Studies," which were published after September 2000, and does not cover earlier studies, which do not incorporate the recent revisions in the findings.

Recent Studies

A major new study found that children whose birth address was within 200 meters of an overhead power line had a 70% increased risk of leukemia. Children living 200 to 600 meters away from power lines had a 20% increased risk. This indicates the danger from power lines is appreciably further from the lines than had been identified in previous studies. The study, which was partially funded by the power-line industry, mapped how far each child lived from a high voltage overhead power line. It compared the children who had cancer with a control group of 29,000 children without cancer, but who lived in comparable districts, Appearing in the June 2005 British Medical Journal, the study concludes there is a statistical link between EMF from power lines and leukemia.
The study – a collaboration between the Childhood Cancer Research Group at the University of Oxford and National Grid owners, Transco – looked at cancer data or children aged up to 15 years old in England and Wales between 1962 and 1995. [Related Press Report]
A Connecticut law requires the Connecticut Siting Council to include health and fair market value issues when deciding on the application to expand and build 345-kilovolt lines. Here is the rationale for the law. As a followup, the Council study shows that burying long lines is feasible.
Based on experiments involving rats and ozone, scientists at the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory have identified a chemical reaction that may explain higher rates of illness observed= among some people exposed to strong electromagnetic fields such as those produced by high-voltage power lines.
A California Department of Health Sciences Evaluation concludes EMFs "can cause some degree of increased risk of childhood leukemia, adult brain cancer, Lou Gehrig’s Disease, and miscarriage" [emphasis added]. The Evaluation—which is the culmination of a 9 year, $7 million research effort—further concludes that magnetic fields may cause suicide and adult leukemia. The Final Evaluation is dated June 2002, but was only released about October 13, 2002. The Final Evaluation uses as a standard causation, which is a more rigorous test than the more common standard that seeks to demonstrate of an association between EMF and many of these diseases. Here is an analysis of this important report. In addition, the California Health Department also produced a relatively short analysis of the policy options implied by the Evaluation. The Department discusses the policy implications of its analysis it a separate report.

Even though the incidence of all these diseases (except miscarriages) is low, the California Department concludes EMF represents a significant health risk. "f EMFs do contribute to the cause of these conditions, even the low fractions of attributable cases and the size of[i] accumulated lifetime risk of highly-exposed individuals could be of concern to regulators. Indeed, when deemed a real cause, estimated lifetime risks smaller than these...have triggered regulatory evaluation and, sometimes, actual regulation."
Microwave News, Wired.com, CNN, and The Electronic Daily, have already reported upon this important study. Here is a transcript of CNN's August 15 report on the final evaluation. On October 6-8, 2002, further information on the final report was reported in prominent foreign newspapers including London's [url=http://www.powerlinefacts.com/Articles%20on%20Oct%206%20on%20California%20Study.htm#Sunday Times]Sunday Times[/url] and [url=http://www.powerlinefacts.com/Articles%20on%20Oct%206%20on%20California%20Study.htm#SUNDAY TELEGRAPH]Sunday Telegraph[/url] and Canada's [url=http://www.powerlinefacts.com/Articles%20on%20Oct%206%20on%20California%20Study.htm#Montreal Gazette]Montreal Gazette[/url], [url=http://www.powerlinefacts.com/Articles%20on%20Oct%206%20on%20California%20Study.htm#Windser Star]Windsor Star[/url], and [url=http://www.powerlinefacts.com/Articles%20on%20Oct%206%20on%20California%20Study.htm#National Post]National Post[/url]. An October 17 article in the San Francisco Gate (the online arm of the San Francisco Chronicle) discusses the report's implication in length.
As a direct result of the California Report, parents in Edmonton, Canada, were able to temporarily delay construction on a new school that they feared was too near a transmission power line. However, ultimately, the school board decided to proceed.
During the week of March 31, 2002, the Minnesota Department of Health posted an evaluation of the massive report of the California Health Department that found that magnetic fields probably cause a number of deadly diseases. The evaluation, whose authorship is not stated, was produced in secret utilizing a process that was completely closed. Perhaps as a result, it contains numerous factual errors. Nothing is known about the people or process through which reached its conclusions, nor the standards it used. Additionally, in Minnesota, a so-called Interagency Working Group on EMF issues issued a report dated September 2002, but likely also published last week. It also contains numerous errors. Again, no authors were identified, and the process through which this report was produced was completely closed. Perhaps as a result, It is clearly not a serious report but rather a reiteration of the utility industry's position
A California Administration Law Judge recently agreed, concluding that power lines represent a health risk.
The Japanese news service reports that new Japanese study finds that EMF is linked to children's brain cancer. This is part of a three-year research effort into the impact of EMF being conducted by the former Japanese Science and Technology Agency, now part of the education ministry. Nevertheless, the Minnesota Department of Health continues to cite this study as not finding such a link.
A new UK study similarly finds a link between power line EMF and childhood leukemia. (Also reported by the BBC on October 30, 2004.) It is now asserted UK authorities supressed this information for 3 years.
New information developed for the Connecticut Siting Council demonstrates that is technically feasible to bury power lines for at least 20 miles.
In an advertisement appearing on page A3 of the November 1 Wall Street Journal, the engineering firm ABB promotes its "no EMF technology, saying "Invisible Power Lines...From a revolutionary approach to underground power transmission....we're serving the world's energy needs while reducing impact on the environment. Delivering reliable, 'invisible' energy without any electromagnetic fields is just one of the ways we bring competitive advantage to customers...Welcome to the world of ABB."
Richard Box from Bristol is the winner of the Bombay Sapphire Prize 2004 – the world’s biggest award for artists, designers and architects working with glass. With a prize value of £20,000, this prestigious annual award that rewards and promotes excellence. “The piece drew attention to the presence of the electromagnetic field in a dramatic way, making the invisible, visible. For many who saw Field, it was a beautiful, magical and sinister experience, which was both thought provoking and educational.”
The UK's National Radiological Protection Board may reduce its limits for EMF exposures. (October 20). New reports suggest that the NRPB will require homes to be at least 150 meters (about 450 feet) away from power lines (October 27).
One of the issue confronting policymakers is the value of a human life. Does it make sense to spend $4 million to bury a line if the reduction in EMF will safe one life? An article in the on-line magazine Slate suggests a human life is worth between $4 million and $8 million.
A three-fold increase in overall spontaneous abortions and a six-fold increase in spontaneous abortions occurring before the 10th week of pregnancy is associated with even momentary exposure to magnetic fields greater than 16 mG. This is the conclusion of new research by Dr. De-Kun Li reported in the January 2002 issue of Epidemiology. Similar results were found in a separate paper on spontaneous abortions prepared for the project by G. M. Lee which is printed in the same issue.
A study reported in the October 11, 2003, edition of the UK Sun newspaper compared people living within 25 meters of a power line with others in the same area outside the 25-meter boundary. It found that more than one in seven pregnant women with homes near transmission power lines had miscarried, compared to one in 29 living further away. Of men and women living close to the lines, 27 per cent said they had suffered from depression compared to 13 per cent further away. Sixty-three per cent of those within 25 meters reported regular headaches compared to 39 per cent of those outside that distance. Insomnia and dietary problems were reported to be around 50 per cent higher near the power lines.
According to a January 4, 2003, article in the Toronto Star, Canadian scientist Magda Havas has determined that 42 of 60 measured Canadian cities had magnetic field intensities that exceed those shown to be associated with childhood leukemia.
According to a news report in New Scientist of January 10, 2002, Li's results caused a California Health Services department scientist, Raymond Neutra, to reexamine his 1991 study of 727 women. Originally, his group's study had measured average magnetic field exposures and with inconclusive results. However, when Neutra recently reanalyzed the data from his earlier study, he discovered the results were similar to Li's. Women exposed to peak magnetic field levels greater than 14 mg doubled their risk of miscarriage over those who had no such exposure.
The results of nine major studies on EMF are reversed in a major analysis, Most of these studies originally had failed to find a link between electromagnetic fields (EMF) and cancer. The new review concludes that, upon reanalysis, the data used in the earlier studies do identify an association between cancer and EMF. The authors of the new analysis are the same researchers who headed the earlier studies that had failed to find an association. (See also the appraisal of this study in the industry journal, Microwave News.) The authors now conclude, “The level of [statistical] significance that we see for the excess risk at high [EMF] exposure makes chance an unlikely explanation.”
A doubling of risk among children with average exposures above 4 mG is "unlikely to be due to chance," according to ICNIRP, a leading European quasi-governmental authority on the dangers of radiation. In a detailed review of the literature on ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease), the ICNIRP believes that the data "point toward a possible risk increase."
A dose-responsive relationship between magnetic fields from power lines and asthma and combined chronic illnesses is identified in an August 2001 Australian study. The study concludes, "The results are consistent with a possible adverse effect of environmental magnetic field exposure on immune-related and other illnesses."
Dr. Paul Vailleneuve of the University of Ottawa finds in
study published in February 2002 that those who were exposed to a moderate 6mG of magnetic fields increased by a factor of 12 their odds of developing an agressive brain tumor know as glioblastoma multiforme.
The Japanese National Institute for Environmental Studies and the National Cancer Center, in midterm analysis of a joint three-year survey project, have concluded children who are often exposed to such electromagnetic waves, emitted from high-voltage power lines and some household appliances, are on average more than twice as likely to get leukemia than those who are not exposed to EMF.
A study conducted in the Netherlands shows that intermitted power frequency magnetic fields cause more DNA breaks than do steady fields. (August 2002)
A new study, published in Cancer Cell International, presents experimental evidence to show that extremely low frequency electromagnetic fields can have a potentially damaging effect on the process of cell division in (already) radiation-injured cells, which could lead to them becoming cancerous. (August 2002)
Research is being conducted in Brussels to determine the maximum exposure for ELF-EMF (September 2002)
In a significant July 2002 study sponsored by, among others, the National Institute of Enviromental Health and the Department of Energy, Reba Goodman and Martin Blank (who testified for the PLTF) note "It is now well established that low frequency (<300 Hz) electromagnetic (EM) fields induce biological changes that include effects ranging from increased enzyme reaction rates to increased transcript levels for specific genes... Despite cell and tissue differences (e.g., mammalian,dipteran, yeast, bacteria), approximately the same EM field exposure, 60 Hz, 80 mG for 20 min, (Goodman and Blank, 1998) induces hsp70 synthesis in all systems studied... DNA is known to conduct electrons, and studies on ATPase, cytochrome oxidase, and the BZ reaction, show that EM fields accelerate electron transfer rates. We have suggested that EM fields activate DNA by generating repulsive forces when accelerating electrons within the DNA double helix (Blank and Goodman, 1997, 1999, 2001)."
The highly respected industry journal Microwave News concludes there is a scientific consensus people exposed to above-average levels of EMF experience "a clear and consistent pattern" of increased cancer risk."
There is solid evidence that second hand smoke is less dangerous than magnetic fields.

Other Developments

Question: Why, given all the above evidence, is there still a perception that power lines are not dangerous. Answer: Because rich corporations handsomely reward lobbyists and scientists for distorting the scientific evidence in order to advance corporations' economic interests, as discussed in this June 2005 article in the Scientific American.
The State of Connecticut has enacted a law that effectively requires the burial of all large transmission power lines built near residences, schools, and other sensitive facilities.
Another Minnesota community is impacted by a power line proposal.
As reported by The San Francisco Examiner, on June 8, 2004, A California Administration law judge has expressed concern over EMF's. However the PUC's chairman indicates he will ignore the judge's recommendation.
The UK's National Radiological Protection Board has lowered its maximum recommending expsoure limits by adopting the Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection (ICNIRP)'s standards for maximum exposure to EMF from power lines. This standard sets the maximum exposure at 1000 mG, which is still a ridiculously high level, given the scientific consensus that there is a statistical link between EMF's greater than 4 mG and increases in the rate of cancer.
According to a March 22, 2003 newspaper report, the EU plans to limit power line magnetic field emissions. (Switzerland already has limited them to 10 mG and Spain has declared such emissions to violate human rights.) It also reports that the world’s largest insurance body, Lloyds of London, is now refusing insurance coverage to power generating companies against damage to workers and consumers’ health.
A new technological development may defer for many years the need to build new transmission power lines. However, it also means that existing lines will become potentially much more dangerous than they are at present.

3M is supporting the advanced testing of its new Aluminum Conductor Composite Reinforced (ACCR) conductor. The new conductor uses a core of aluminum-matrix-composite wires surrounded by temperature-resistant aluminum-zirconium wires. According to officials at the Department of Energy, the composite core is stronger than steel, but doesn't elongate as do conventional cores.
The new conductor, which has been under development for many years, carries up to 3 times as much current as conventional steel conductors of the same size.
Accordingly, it is likely most of the need for new transmission capacity can be met merely by replacing existing conductors with the ACCR conductor. Therefore, it will no longer be necessary to build new transmission lines, and it should now be possible to remove those existing lines that have undue environmental or human impacts. However, once existing lines are restrung with the new conductor, the magnetic fields they emit will become three times as intense.
Field tests are underway. The National Transmission Technology Research Center in Oak Ridge,TN, is testing the new conductor. Separately, the Tennessee Valley Authority has strung a test line near Oak Ridge. Using a $4 million Congressional appropriation, the Western Area Power Administration has just begun a year-long test of a one mile, medium sized 795 kcmil conductor in a 230-kv installation near Fargo, N.D., under some of the most challenging weather conditions in the U.S.
As reported on June 13, 2004, in the Minneapolis Star Tribune, the energy utility Xcel plans to begin using this new wire. Elsewhere, construction of power lines using this technology is now undeway.
An article in the New York Times magazine of May 5, 2002, discusses "Evidence Based Medicine" (EBM). The application of EBM to ELFEMF would lead to far stronger actions than are currently entertained by public health authorities. The article suggests that resistance to EBM is lead by doctors who are unequipped to deal with rigorous science and who therefore feel threatened by this new trend in medicine. Another article in the August 10 New York Times points out that the causes for most cancers are not known. Given that the causes are unknown, it is unreasonable for the Minnesota Department of Health and others to decry the dangers of EMF on the grounds that it is not shown there is a cause and effect relationship between EMF and cancer.
A recent article in the Lakeland Florida ledger relates how prospective homeowners fear transmission power lines
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PostSubject: Re: wind energy   Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:00 am

IF this study were complete then why haven't these facts been proven before. Transmition lines have been around for more then 10 years so if this study had any merit it would show that this had been going on longer than when the study was done. Leukemia would be a a much larger disease than it is now.
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PostSubject: Re: wind energy   Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:58 am

Actually studies have been around for a long time. Read any of the books by Brouder or The Body Electric by Becker.
As to why leukemia is not more prevalent, I would use this analogy...
smoking is widely regarded as being a major cause of lung cancer. I have known many, many people who smoke, and only a couple who have died from lung cancer.
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PostSubject: Re: wind energy   Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:33 pm

SO are you saying that you know the cause of leukemia because if you do Hallelujah praise the lord. Also your analogy still does not make sense as to some of the books I've read that state other causes for leukemia including age, genetics or life style choices (i.e. obesity and and bad dietary habits).
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PostSubject: Where is the logic?   Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:04 pm

The logic of mythoughts and flame are confusing and misleading. I think they are saying, " I am from the government and I am here to help you."

The people of Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia and Florida all believed that self serving business and government bought and paid for looked out for only themselves.

Big business can be as bad as big government, especially when big business buys big government.

If you want to make this area look like the Gulf Coast this forum will always oppose bad decisions. Whether they are made by those who support big business or big government.
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